Re: draft of text for new OVC-sponsored bill

From: <dr-jekyll_at_att_dot_net>
Date: Thu Jan 29 2009 - 06:05:50 CST

If not Alan, then maybe another California resident might want to run for California SOS on a ticket advocating open elections including open source software, a voter-verified paper trail, voter registration clean-up, and a host of other election-related issues. That would lead to education of the public that there is an option of open source software. That would play well with most taxpayers.

I didn't realize California had direct election of SOS. One of the dirty tricks of politicians is to trick their opponents to spending most of their time talking to the politician or the politician's staff thinking that they're influencing the politician while the strategy is to keep the opponent busy wasting his time communicating with them instead of spending it more wisely informing the public.

--
Kurt 
Nor yet, O Freedom! close thy lids 
in slumber for thine enemy never 
sleeps. -- The Antiquity of 
Freedom By William Cullen Bryant
-------------- Original message from Brian Fox <bfox@TheOkoriGroup.com>: -------------- 
> 
> Critical review is a good and necessary process for the building of 
> any robust system. In order to provide a proper critique, it is 
> necessary to understand the system that is under review. Alan's push 
> today is to evaluate the existing ideas, and, in specific, the OVC 
> system in the context of real-world scenarios. 
> 
> Seeing this, I ask myself, "How can I help?" 
> 
> As a long time supporter of open source (1984 marks my entrance into 
> the free software arena), I have pledged my ongoing support for this 
> effort, and have already allocated some resources to the creation of 
> parts of the OVC system. During the course of building and testing 
> these components in an actual election, I spoke with Alan at length 
> about some of the decision that had been made in and around the design 
> of the OVC system. Although Alan had heard these questions and 
> comments before, he was able to listen with an open mind to the 
> possibility that he might have missed something, or that there may be 
> improvements that could be made to the system. I find this attitude 
> to be highly commendable. 
> 
> Finally, my view of Alan Dechert is that of a man with high integrity, 
> who maintains intense focus on the tasks at hand. He is not easily 
> led astray or distracted by the small stuff, and most of the things he 
> runs into automatically get pushed into that category. However, he 
> has the ability to see the difference in those borderline cases, the 
> creativity to architect a solution, and the discipline to follow 
> through on the implementation of that solution. 
> 
> I believe that Alan would make a fine SoS, and that his tenure in that 
> position would see a large amount of forward movement in many areas, 
> including voting system reform. 
> 
> Alan, would you consider such a position? 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Brian 
> 
> 
> On Jan 28, 2009, at 1:33 PM, Ronald Crane wrote: 
> 
> > Alan Dechert wrote: 
> >> From: "Ronald Crane" 
> >>> Alan Dechert wrote: 
> >>>> From: Ronald Crane 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> OVC's focus on ballot printers for all voters oversells their 
> >>>>> benefits and understates their security risks, especially 
> >>>>> versus hand-filled, machine-tabulated paper ballot systems. 
> >>>>> 
> >>>> This is pure opinion. You have absolutely no data with which to 
> >>>> back this up. 
> >>> I have identified a variety of attack forms (presentation, 
> >>> selection, DoS, etc.) and vectors (e.g., attack the voting 
> >>> application website/CDs/hashes/trust tree, instrument various 
> >>> kinds of firmware, use network vulnerabilities) in this and other 
> >>> recent threads on this list. 
> >> Nothing whatsoever specific to the OVC system and procedures. 
> > It hardly matters whether the attacks apply only to OVC's ballot 
> > printer, or also to the larger class of computational ballot 
> > presentation/selection/recording devices of which OVC's ballot 
> > printer is a member; they're still attacks that can be used against 
> > OVC's ballot printer. 
> >> I don't think you even bothered to come to the LinuxWorld demo. 
> >> Maybe you could have demonstrated your hacks there. I don't think 
> >> you would have been successful. 
> > Many have criticized existing vendors for asserting that attacks 
> > that have been discovered through analysis (but that have not been 
> > demonstrated) don't exist or can't work. Please adopt a more open 
> > attitude toward critical review; it will only make your products 
> > better. 
> > 
> > -R 
> > 
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> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Brian 
> -- 
> Brian J. Fox 
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