Re: draft of text for new OVC-sponsored bill

From: Ronald Crane <voting_at_lastland_dot_net>
Date: Wed Jan 28 2009 - 14:25:44 CST

Alan Dechert wrote:
> From: Ronald Crane
>> OVC's focus on ballot printers for all voters oversells their
>> benefits and understates their security risks, especially
>> versus hand-filled, machine-tabulated paper ballot systems.
> This is pure opinion. You have absolutely no data with which to back
> this up.
I have identified a variety of attack forms (presentation, selection,
DoS, etc.) and vectors (e.g., attack the voting application
website/CDs/hashes/trust tree, instrument various kinds of firmware, use
network vulnerabilities) in this and other recent threads on this list.
Many of the responses have been to wave hands, issue self-contradictory
defenses (e.g., voters won't effectively check hand-filled ballots, but
will effectively check machine-filled ones), state that hand-filled
paper is not "in any way preferable to machine-marked ballots", tell us
that it's "easy" to realtime-audit all wireless communications in
polling places, and to throw personal insults.

How to weigh various security vulnerabilities is, in part, a matter of
opinion. It is not a matter of opinion that those vulnerabilities exist.
> Our proposal is to study these issues so we will have some data.
Good. Then let's not hear blanket condemnations of hand-filled
machine-tabulated paper.
> You are trying to write the executive summary to a report where the
> study has not been done.
No. I am identifying issues that need to be fully addressed in the report.


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