Re: Integrating two solutions (related to the Calif. bill thread)

From: Ronald Crane <voting_at_lastland_dot_net>
Date: Thu Jan 22 2009 - 13:01:48 CST

That's good. But at least one concern -- the question of class
certification -- is more pointed for the ballot-printer architecture
than for the hand-filled-paper-ballot-with-open-source-scanner
architecture. This is because class certification makes firmware-based
attacks easier to mount than does individual-hardware certification, and
such attacks are more difficult to detect in the ballot-printer
architecture than in the scanner architecture, because the latter's
results (the counts) can be effectively audited, while the former's (due
to, e.g., presentation attacks, DoS attacks, etc.) are much less
amenable to meaningful audits.


Arthur Keller wrote:
> Ron, the draft legislation is agnostic in that regard, as far as I can
> tell. It would more easily allow certification of a system like you
> propose, just as it would more easily allow a system with the Dechert
> architecture.
> So let's separate the legislation discussion from the architecture
> discussion.
> Best regards,
> Arthur
> At 11:00 AM -0800 1/21/09, Ronald Crane wrote:
>> Why not (1) hand-filled paper ballots for the general voting
>> population; (2) Vote-PADs for the disabled who can use them, and
>> OVC-style ballot printers for the disabled who need the extra
>> assistance; (3) OVC-style scanners to count the ballots (preferably
>> at each precinct); and (4) the Humboldt procedure/hand audits to
>> check the counting?
>> -R
>> Jim March wrote:
>>> Folks,
>>> Let's step back a sec and look at the landscape here.
>>> There are four reform solutions on the table right now:....

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