Re: Move On tries Internet voting.

From: Danny Swarzman <danny_at_stowlake_dot_com>
Date: Mon Feb 04 2008 - 14:50:37 CST

I looked for the results on the moveon site. Didn't see any numbers.
It says Obama won. Maybe I didn't look hard enough. If anyone finds
the numbers, please post a link.

-Danny

On Feb 1, 2008, at 2:08 PM, Richard C. Johnson wrote:

> Voting multiple times is a built-in problem having to do with
> registration and sign-in at the polling place, a control on
> voting. Absent a good registration system, there is absolutely no
> limit on internet voting, which is pretty much CNN poll quality
> stuff. That is, the poll rewards those who vote early and often.
>
> Any unique ID, of course, could be used to make sure you vote only
> once in an internet poll. One such code would be the state of your
> driver's license+your driver's license number. That assumes that
> you buy into the driver's license ID thing.
>
> But, without secure and unique ID, there is no way to do the
> internet voting process right. Only a signature comparison to a
> registered person allows most polling places to control voting, and
> even absentee ballot envelopes should include a signature on outer
> envelopes for that purpose.
>
> So much for internet voting...and, of course, there can be NO
> meaningful recount.
>
> -- Dick
>
> Arlene Montemarano <mikarl@starpower.net> wrote:
> I do that test every time I sign a petition. About half of the
> time, it seems to accept a second vote. I have always wondered
> about that.
>
>
>
> Ed Kennedy wrote:
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> This letter is not meant to be an endorsement of a
>> particular party or organization. I thought you might be
>> interested in knowing that Move On is conducting an Internet
>> voting process to see if they can endorse a particular Democratic
>> Candidate if one of them gets a 2/3rds majority. Clicking on the
>> link with a long string like this at the end, ?id=12118-5645680-
>> XbbRnh&t=560 in an email takes you to a web page where you make
>> your choice, have an option to make a comment and decide whether
>> or not to share your comment. Iíve changed parts of the link for
>> obvious privacy reasons. Move On then asks you for your phone
>> number for a random audit process. Once you click on vote, you
>> are immediately taken to a web site soliciting a donation. I
>> exited the donation page. Then I returned to the email, clicked
>> on the link and was apparently able to vote again! It may be that
>> my vote was only registered once, but who can tell? So much for
>> the current state of Internet voting.
>> --
>>
>> Edmund R. Kennedy, PE
>> 10777 Bendigo Cove
>> San Diego, CA 92126
>>
>> Work for the common good.
>> My profile: <http://geocities.com/ekennedyx/>
>>
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