Re: Move On tries Internet voting.

From: Richard C. Johnson <dick_at_iwwco_dot_com>
Date: Mon Feb 04 2008 - 10:44:12 CST

Sorry...I thought the point was clear. ID over internet is not easy at all; I believe that they did NOT provide what anyone could justify as "a unique ID" held by you and you alone as a consequence of your proving your identity. Note: to get a bank account at BofA you have to show yourself and provide "real" ID to a live person. Then, BofA assigns you a unique ID and passwords and procedures for not getting spoofed on line.
   
  So you register to vote, get proven to be you yourself and eligible, and then you get an "ID." Now, it is not possible to uniquely associate that ID with you over the internet unless you want to go for fingerprints or retina scans or other spook stuff. Even then, you may be using the internet with a ward heeler watching you. As long as you can pass the ID to someone else or do collaborative voting, the proof of your identity is NOT demonstrated so you can vote on line by presenting the ID.
   
  This is NOT what you can get purely over the internet. Instead, an unidentified person is assigned an ID; and another; and another... So...which is these people is voting only once? Who knows? This is what I thought I had argued so that one might learn the infeasiblity of internet voting.
   
  Also, unlike the case with your bank, you have motives (money, politics, convenience, indifference) to pass your unique ID to some one else, assuming that you get one unique to you and based on proof of your ID. This is your money in the bank, but voting is different. No one else should get to vote for you by proxy or by selling your vote; this is the fundamental difference between internet banking (understood by Diebold) and voting (NOT understood by Diebold). I can use my wife's credit card with her consent, but I cannot vote for her even with that consent.
   
  Could internet voting ever be kosher? Maybe...but there are many barriers to surmount before this unsavory cheeseburger of internet voting qualifies as kosher.
   
  -- Dick

Jerry Depew <depew@ncn.net> wrote:
  Well, they DID provide a unique ID. So are they in the clear?

I thought MoveOn would be subjected to clear and convincing criticism on
this OVC list, but so far the case against their internet vote has not
convinced me. I'm pretty disappointed. A teaching moment has passed.
Internet voting has scored a PR coup.

On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:08:03 -0600, Richard C. Johnson
wrote:

> Any unique ID, of course, could be used to make sure you vote only once
> in an internet poll.

-- 
Jerry Depew, Laurens, IA
http://iowavoters.org
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