Re: San Francisco debate heating up

From: Alan Dechert <dechert_at_gmail_dot_com>
Date: Tue Feb 27 2007 - 01:20:49 CST

FYI, my response to the Arntz memo.

See attached letter.

Also available on the web at:

Alan D.

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: David RR Webber (XML)
  To: Richard C. Johnson
  Cc: Open Voting Consortium discussion list
  Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 10:21 AM
  Subject: Re: [OVC-discuss] San Francisco debate heating up


  I think you miss the other point [or maybe NOT! ; -) ] - notice their legal council is involved...

  The last thing Sequioa needs is their source code being poured over by saavy techno wonks who can uncover all kinds of bugs and horrors - that setup potential law suits.

  That is of course the other HUGE strength about a peer reviewed open standard and open source approach - that a closed source code system simply cannot compare to.

  Thanks, DW

  p.s. Notice that Mr Bush's own new ranch building complex is a model of green-ness and CO2 balance. "Pay no attention to the man behind the green curtain..."

  "The way to be is to do" - Confucius (551-472 B.C.)

    -------- Original Message --------
    Subject: Re: [OVC-discuss] San Francisco debate heating up
    From: "Richard C. Johnson" <>
    Date: Sun, February 25, 2007 8:31 pm
    To: Open Voting Consortium discussion list

    The focus on "disclosed source" relative to officials of the State of California is, of course, some distance from Open Source. The compromise position put forward is, like the voluntary carbon emission reductions favored by Mr. Bush, not much.

    It is, of course, true that Sequoia does not want to provide as Open Source the source code it counts among its proprietary assets at a time it is trying to sell itself for as much money as it can. The alternative is for Sequoia to use existing Open Source code instead of its own software for those of its customers that prefer Open Source. This would mean that Sequoia would benefit from providing services and from selling and supporting hardware to run that source code. It could also keep its own source code secret; it just would not sell that software to the City of San Francisco.

    There are many opportunities for Sequoia to compromise in a meaningful way. I am sure that Open Voting Solutions, Inc. would be happy to help Sequoia respond to the needs of its San Francisco customer. The other course is for Sequoia to stonewall and see if San Francisco is serious.

    Time is marching on, and ES&S would be happy to take money from SF. Perhaps another solution can be found if Sequoia refuses to make a genuine compromise.

    -- Dick

    Alan Dechert <> wrote:
      I just found out about this memo issued last Tuesday by SF Director of
      Elections John Arntz.

      I plan to deliver a response by Monday or so.

      How many outrageous things can you spot in this memo?

      You know, this is a process. I'm glad Arntz is putting some thought into

      Alan D.

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