Re: Hand-marked ballots [Re: OVC-discuss Digest, Vol 28, Issue 26]

From: Teresa Hommel <tahommel_at_earthlink_dot_net>
Date: Fri Feb 16 2007 - 11:51:07 CST

Work for "obvious intent" laws and requirements that "HOW TO MARK YOUR
BALLOT" posters are posted at each precinct.

Teresa Hommel

Brent Turner wrote:

> One problem with allowing voters to take a pen to a ballot-
> incompetents or hooligans can mis-mark Oversight is difficult. ...
> giving the election officials an excuse for lack of audit reconciliation.
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> I prefer a front-end ballot printer- Brent Turner
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> From: Teresa Hommel [mailto:tahommel@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 1:36 PM
> To: Open Voting Consortium discussion list
> Subject: Re: [OVC-discuss] Hand-marked ballots [Re: OVC-discuss
> Digest, Vol 28, Issue 26]
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> Most of these attacks could be avoided by having a lot of observers
> and firing the election lawyers and using kindergarten teachers instead.
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> I believe that many if not most people cannot compare two printed
> ballots and determine whether or not they are the same.But it would be
> very unusual for a person hand-marking a ballot to mark the wrong
> candidate.
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> Teresa Hommel
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> Hamilton Richards wrote:
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>Having voters mark their ballots by hand is no panacea. For a
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>comprehensive catalog of all the ways in which hand-marked ballots
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>can be altered or invalidated (or both) by crooked election
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>officials, see [1]. The basis for most of these attacks is the
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>discretion afforded election judges in inferring the voter's intent
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>from the marked ballot (optical scanning helps, but judges are still
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>called upon to evaluate ballots rejected by the scanner). Most of
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>these attacks are foiled by having marked ballots printed by machine.
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>Additional benefits of machine-printed ballots are the elimination of
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>the need to print ballots with many different sets of races and
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>questions, in many different languages, and to store them and
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>distribute them securely.
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>Perhaps it should be called the VVMPPB (Voter-Verified Machine
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>Printed Paper Ballot).
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>--Ham Richards
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>1. <http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~jones/voting/paper.html> <http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/%7Ejones/voting/paper.html>, in particular
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>the sections under the headings "The Election Judges" and "Rules
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>Governing Ballot Interpretation".
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>At 2:30 PM -0800 2007/2/14, ovc-discuss-request@listman.sonic.net <mailto:ovc-discuss-request@listman.sonic.net> wrote:
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>>Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:13:58 -0800 (PST)
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>>From: "Richard C. Johnson" <dick@iwwco.com> <mailto:dick@iwwco.com>
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>>Subject: Re: [OVC-discuss] Paperless voting Re: OVC-discuss Digest,
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>> Vol 28, Issue 25
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>>To: Open Voting Consortium discussion list
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>>Message-ID: <707391.32917.qm@web405.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <mailto:707391.32917.qm@web405.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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>>VVPB is simply a paper ballot, the official ballot in an election.
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>>At a minimum, there will be handicapped voters using touch screens
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>>to generate ballots, which will then be fed through precinct
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>>scanners. Precinct scanners are by far the most popular means of
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>>voting in the US and, except for handicapped voters, all ballots
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>>will be marked by the voter's own hand. Using ballot markers for
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>>non-handicapped voters is expensive, redundant, and rare. I agree
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>>with Phil that in almost all instances the ballot should be marked
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>>directly by the voter.
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