Re: Review of OVC's project

From: Ed Kennedy <ekennedyx_at_yahoo_dot_com>
Date: Sat Feb 19 2005 - 14:00:09 CST

Hello Ron:

Around here, there's a formulaic respone to your letter. It generally goes
like this.

"Gee what a great idea. Let us know when you've got something to show the
rest of us."

I know that sounds cruel and sometimes is along the lines of no good deed or
notion goes unpunished, but we really, truely are all very busy people. I
keep promising myself to get back to collecting and systemizing the works of
all the brilliant people that are involved in the project but then I've got
to go to work, balance the check book, spend time with my loved ones,
upgrade my personal web site, mow the lawn, work with local politicians,
etcetera, etcetera and etcetera.

I have asked around about some sort of application that will harvest meaning
out the several years of correspondence and haven't yet found anything yet
that goes from email to a summary. I've talked with some amazing people at
MIT about this and they've generously pointed me toward cutting edge
material like AI applications and other things that are literally doctoral
thesis level material. Hell, I'm just a middle aged civil engineer who
gives a damm about voting technology and this stuff is way beyond me. It
seems that this is a universal and growing problem in the cyberverse that
isn't restricted to the Open Voting Consortium. Honestly, if you can find
something that takes us at least part way there, you're on the track to a
Nobel Prize or at least being a folk hero of cyber-dom.

While I have access to the system between my ears which is probably the only
tool to do the job, unfortunately if I apply it to this challenge its not
available to anything else. So, when I urge you to follow up on the very
real problem you've recognized it is in full realization of what I ask you.

Thanks, Ed Kennedy


Ron Crane wrote:
> The current consensus and list of open issues need to be presented in
> an organized fashion. Few people have the time or energy to wade back
> through months of mailing-list archives. I looked at most of the wiki,
> the entire faq, and some of the list archives and found only bits here
> and there touching on my issues. No doubt many of them were covered at
> one time or another, but I (and other newcomers) have no good way to
> find out.
> Eventually, of course, all this information needs to get pulled into
> reasonably formal specs that can be peer-reviewed and presented to
> policymakers. Perhaps the identification of issues and the description
> of each one's status could be the first step in writing those specs.
> -Ron
> P.S. Who's Chito?
>> Hello Ron:
>> No, the Wiki is not dead but has been languishing. The affiars of
>> the world and men proceed in waves and I guess we have been in a
>> trough of the wave. However, as Alan has indicated, many, many, many
>> of the items you have mentioned have been discussed to great clarity
>> if not agreement. The introductory page of the Wiki goes into great
>> detail how you might research these items. I had been intending to
>> pull together some sort of summary of the correspondecne threads in
>> the Wiki but given the tedious nature of such a project it has been
>> easy to find amost anything is a more worthwhile use of my energies.
>> How ever, your questions do bring up the issue and perhaps I will
>> wade into this again. In the meantime, I wish Chito well!
>> Thanks, Ed Kennedy, now and then Wiki Whacker
>> ==============
>> Ron Crane wrote:
>>> Greetings. I am new to the list and to OVC, having found it via a
>>> web search on "open source voting". I have reviewed the faq and
>>> much of the wiki, and have many comments and questions. These I
>>> have posted to the wiki at
>>> . Please
>>> review them and comment here or in the wiki (assuming that the wiki
>>> is not defunct).
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Ron
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