Re: NPR Show on e-voting, Raba report

From: Dennis Paull <dpaull_at_svpal_dot_org>
Date: Thu Feb 12 2004 - 00:02:15 CST

Hi Jan et al,

All the arguements use use against internet voting apply to mail ballotting.
Except for the fact that internet voting can be hacked on a massive scale
without leaving tracks.

Oregon, for example, uses mail ballotting for almost everyone. They do
not seem to think they have a problem. Sure absentee ballots can be
forged, sold or coerced. But it is very hard to cast thousands of ballots
that way. Not so for internet voting.

Dennis

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At 11:11 PM 2/11/2004 +0100, you wrote:
>On Tue, 10 Feb 2004, Alan Dechert wrote:
>
>> Raba Technologies was hired to review the Diebold touch screen system.
>> Among other things, they hacked the smart card using a PDA! So much for the
>> one person one vote concept.
>>
>> http://www.raba.com/text/press/TA_Report_AccuVote.pdf
>>
>> Doug Jones was on NPR last Friday talking about it.
>>
>> You can listen to it by going here:
>> http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=1648406
>>
>
>Very interesting. I agree fully with what was said about internet voting
>not being possible at this time.
>
>I'm sorry for being a bit off-topic, but when I have told people about
>this project, I have gotten this question more than once: "We can do our
>income declaration over the internet, or using the phone; can't we vote
>in the same way?".
>
>My answer has been no, primarily because of the security problems. But
>even if those can be solved, I have said that it would be unlikely - at
>least if it means remote unattended internet voting. The primary reason
>would be that this could make it possible for a voter to prove to someone
>else how the votes have been cast. Implications of this may be:
>
> * It can create a market for politically uninterested people to sell
> their votes.
>
> * It opens up for pressures and threats: "Vote for me as Dog Catcher,
> or you'll get your knee caps broken!"
>
>>From what I have read about the problems with internet voting, it only
>concerns the usual security problems, and not the ones I mentioned above.
>It would be interesting to hear the view of Douglas Jones, or other voting
>experts, about this.
>
>/Jan
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