Re: question about hand-held statistical devices in the field

From: Dylan Hirsch-Shell <dylanhs_at_gmail_dot_com>
Date: Fri Dec 21 2007 - 01:55:45 CST

In other words, it would be impossible for Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich, or
Mike Gravel to win the Iowa caucuses (aside from their presumably low levels
of support amongst Iowans, if the polls are to be believed)? Or perhaps it
would be impossible for [chosen candidate from each party] to lose?

On Dec 20, 2007 9:44 PM, Bev Harris <bev@blackboxvoting.org> wrote:

> Rick, I think you're missing a point.
>
> The detail results are not necessarily released in the caucuses. In other
> words:
> People congregate, vote, and then the vote goes into the cell phone
> tabulation
> program.
>
> Who is on the other end of it? Each political party has a significant
> incentive
> to manipulate results. How do caucus goers know that the votes transmitted
> were
> properly tabulated?
>
> This is a variation on the poll tape/central tabulator situation. If you
> don't
> post the poll tapes, there's no check on the central tabulator. With the
> caucus, if caucus attendees can't see the detail report they can't confirm
> that
> it adds up to the announced result, nor can they know their vote made it
> into
> the accumulation untampered.
>
> I don't look at this as outside hacker land. I see it as a magnificent
> opportunity for insider fraud, party level fraud. Depending on where the
> data
> actually goes, there is a more insidious kind of potential fraud. If it
> were to
> be transmitted directly to NEP or Edison Media Research, this would place
> the
> tabulation at a layer above both parties.
>
> Bev
>
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