Re: Prerendering of GUI for voting machines

From: Alan Dechert <dechert_at_gmail_dot_com>
Date: Mon Dec 03 2007 - 16:47:52 CST

In a narrow sense, yes, it was your idea. In a broader sense, it emerged
from the OVC project. If the project had not been started, it's unlikely you
would have published any such idea. If you had not come along, it's
possible that someone else would have arrived at the same conclusion. We
were having trouble getting this done with wxpython, so we needed to look at
another way.

Several people deserve credit for the demo project getting started. Ed
Cherlin was the first to suggest to me that we get a page on Sourceforge and
start writing some code in Python in order to build a demo. He was referred
to me by David Dill. A month or so later, Dill also referred Arthur Keller
to me. Arthur said, "let's get this going." He started the voting-project
email list because collaborating with cc list got too cumbersome. David
Mertz was a huge magnet for Python developers. Doug Jones has been one of
the major commentators nationally -- internationally too -- on the subject
of voting system reform. So having him join the project as one of the three
OVC founders was very important to the project.

Before all that, Henry Brady was my co-author. This gave me some
credibility.

With that in mind, I would be happy with the following scenario. Let's
write put something together. Fred can make the post to this list, and
we'll give Ping the url for the post for citation. Fred's message should
present his thinking on the prerendering idea and acknowledge the work of
everyone else involved. And, the post should include appropriate links to
publicity and such (I can give you a list).

Before Fred makes this post, we should do a little research to see what
similar ideas might have been out there. For example, early DREs used
prerendered screens but the screens were not computer screens. I guess they
were laid out on paper with buttons around the ballot for the vote to make
selections.

Alan D.

>I would appreciated it if Ping mentioned somewhere in his reference
> that I was responsible for the original idea in my role as lead
> developer for the OVC demo project. As I mentioned, this wasn't
> entirely due to expediency, it was more a matter of matching form to
> function, (e.g. a well thought out design approach). If he needs
> contact information, I am fred.mclain at boeing dot com and mclain at
> halcyon dot com. Given that I am working for a research group now,
> being cited isn't a bad thing.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Fred-
>
>
> On Dec 3, 2007, at 2:12 PM, David Mertz wrote:
>
>> I have emailed Ping about the concerns expressed on this list. As I
>> expected, he was very agreeable to adding appropriate citation to the
>> prior work of OVC/EVM2003.
>>
>> Ping asks, however, for clarification on exactly *what* is best to
>> cite in future footnotes. We had quite a bit of discussion around
>> this, but it's also not obvious to me exactly what an academic
>> footnote should reference. If members of this list can propose
>> citation details, I will work with Ping on the best form for
>> reference to the EVM2003 work.
>>
>> I presume that a good footnote might include a couple citations. For
>> example, perhaps it would make sense to include both a link to the
>> Sourceforge project page, and also to the supporting discussion (even
>> if indirect) within the academic papers Arthur and I worked on (with
>> varying co-authors).
>>
>> Yours, David...
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