Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: [OVC-developer] Realistic Platform Management Position ?]]

From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joehall_at_gmail_dot_com>
Date: Mon Dec 06 2004 - 11:00:18 CST

On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 09:53:15 -0700, Robert Rapplean <> wrote:
> David Mertz wrote:
> > I don't think it's very hard to find developers for Free tools. And
> > if it's Python, it's not hard to train anyone with a modicum of brains
> > to use it.
> On a more serious note, finding programmers who will learn Python
> without getting paid for it might be beyond our means. It's still
> considered somewhat of a hobbyists language by most businesses, and
> doesn't make much of a resume item.

Just to interject and then run (I'm more of a policy wonk than a
programmer these days):

Some of the best programmers I know prefer python... while that
doesn't mean the development language for the OVC should be as such, I
think this quote sums up my feelings (and many here in CS and SIMS at

"When you decide what infrastructure to use for a project, you're not
just making a technical decision. You're also making a social
decision, and this may be the more important of the two. For example,
if your company wants to write some software, it might seem a prudent
choice to write it in Java. But when you choose a language, you're
also choosing a community. The programmers you'll be able to hire to
work on a Java project won't be as smart as the ones you could get to
work on a project written in Python. And the quality of your hackers
probably matters more than the language you choose. Though, frankly,
the fact that good hackers prefer Python to Java should tell you
something about the relative merits of those languages."

from "Great Hackers" by Paul Graham

He since wrote another article specifically explaining this quote, which
is at

Joseph Lorenzo Hall
UC Berkeley, SIMS PhD Student
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