Re: Potent new evidence completing the Windows CEfraud picture

From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joehall_at_gmail_dot_com>
Date: Fri Aug 04 2006 - 11:53:20 CDT

On 8/4/06, Jim March <> wrote:
> You know, a lawyer I spoke to last night had an interesting point to make.
> Despite having the Diebold memo from Talbot Iredale on the one hand and
> Wyle's testimony on the other that Diebold withheld the code, and no
> mention of CE in the Wyle cert docs, there still exists a miniscule
> possibility that Diebold DID turn over everything to Wyle and Wyle just
> ignored it all.
> So...on a hyper-technical level we don't have "proof of fraud" on
> Diebold's part.
> But really...what are the odds?

Well, I think there's one important piece of this puzzle that is
missing... specifically, David Wagner pointed out to me in late June
that there are direct responses from both Ciber and Wyle on the COTS
issue in this public records request document (see pages 185 and 188
of this PDF):

I've taken the liberty of extracting those pages and putting them in
their own PDF here:

Ciber's response clearly shows that DESI represented the ABasic files
as COTS. Wyle's response is a non-response... which is rather strange
as the various ITA reports that EPIC and BBV have come across clearly
show that they examined the abinterp.c (and associated header file) as
far back as 2001 for the TS and as far back as 1996 for optical scan
(what was then the Global Election Systems AccuVote-ES 2000, right?).

For the 1996 evidence, see page 13 of Wyle Report No. 44908-01,
available here: (for
other parts of that report, go here and scroll down to "Wyle
Laboratory Independent Testing Authority (ITA) Report on Qualification
Testing of the AccuVote ES-2000 Vote Tally System": ).

However, note that at this time the equipment was subject to the 1990
standards (which are quite different in the Security section compared
to the 2002 or 2005 standards).

best, Joe

Joseph Lorenzo Hall
PhD Student, UC Berkeley, School of Information
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