Re: Fw: Meet the $499 Mac.

From: charlie strauss <cems_at_earthlink_dot_net>
Date: Fri Aug 26 2005 - 22:50:34 CDT

 The trusted computing platform is only a good thing for Voting systems, regardless of how you feel about it on your home computer.

While devel's advocacy is always an important job, I'm puzzled about why you are on this forum if you intrisicly oppose computerized voting. Maybe you should enlighten us.

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From: Ron Crane <>
Sent: Aug 26, 2005 9:00 PM
To: Open Voting Consortium discussion list <>
Subject: Re: [OVC-discuss] Fw: Meet the $499 Mac.

That's included in the $599 and $699 models: . And 6 months from now it'll probably be
in every one. Along these lines, Intel recently announced a single-chip
WIFI solution. You just plop it down, connect it to VCC and ground, add
an antenna (which can be a trace on a circuit board), and connect the
command/data bus, and voila! instant WIFI. This kind of thing, along
with BPL, will soon become broadly standard in COTS systems. And when
Intel's "Trusted Computing Initiative" (read: hardware DRM) gets going,
it'll probably be used to monitor, and to report on, your use of
DRM-protected materials. Lest you think this is paranoid nuttery,
wouldn't film studios love to know which movie scenes viewers replay the
most, and wouldn't music companies love to know which songs each person
just can't get enough of? It's "Trusted Computing" alright -- the
studios and music companies can trust it; everyone else (including those
who would use this hardware for e-voting systems) had better beware.


Fred McLain wrote:

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> Isn't it true that all of the newer Macs have internal wireless
> networking, including the Mac Mini we're talking about?
> -Fred-
> On Aug 26, 2005, at 3:17 PM, Nathan L. Adams wrote:
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>> Alan Dechert wrote:
>>> When you say, "used in school," that could turn out to be a reason to
>>> consider the Mac. They are widely used in schools. There may be
>>> business reasons for doing it that way in some circumstances. I
>>> vote at
>>> a school. The same school has a computer room with a bunch of
>>> Macs. If,
>>> say, a half dozen of those school computers were in secure
>>> enclosures, I
>>> don't see any reason they couldn't simply be reconfigured for Election
>>> Day (disable harddrive and network, boot from CD/DVD). If Apple
>>> and the
>>> schools were on board with it, then it could be quite cheap -- no more
>>> than a couple hundred dollars per year.
>> Don't bet the OVC farm on reusing school equipment as voting equipment.
>> Some folks will (rightly) argue that it may not be a good idea to
>> subject your voting equipment to clever, resourceful, immature school
>> aged hackers for the better part of the year.
>> But my main point was that x86 as a hardware platform is far more
>> 'open'
>> and generally understood than anything that Apple will offer us. I also
>> want to deter anyone from believing that OS X is a) F/OSS b) a viable
>> platform for OVC software.
>> Nathan
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