Re: New York Times Quote of the Day & Provisional ballots

From: Edmund R. Kennedy <ekennedyx_at_yahoo_dot_com>
Date: Fri Aug 06 2004 - 12:51:30 CDT

Hello David:
 
I've volunteered to be a poll worker down in San Diego County. I know we're going to use optical scan or mark sense ballots in November. I'm not sure if any California counties are actually going to be able to legally use their DRE machines. Arthur, Alan or anyone, do you know the status of the 'recertifiication' of the non-Diebold DRE machines? Also, when you use optical scan or mark sense systems, is the nominal ballot filled out by the voter just part of the audit trail or is it formally the ballot (this question is not restricted just to California)? Additionally I am not familiar with the details of when the ballots are counted on optical scan systems. Are they typically counted 'on the fly' as the ballots are handed in or are they counted after the polls are closed? I can see pros and cons for each way.
 
Finally, not to throw a wrench into the works, but what about using the EVM as a front end to existing optical scan ballot systems? The voter would use the touch screen to mark the ballot which would be printed out in a format compatable with existing optical scan voting equipment and counted by existing optical scan voting equipment. This could be a neat dance step around the old issue of bar codes versus OCR.
 
Thanks, Ed Kennedy

David Jefferson <d_jefferson@yahoo.com> wrote:
In California, provisional ballots ARE placed into the ballot
box, at least in those counties that have ballot boxes anyway.
Whether DRE counties also have ballot boxes I am not sure,
although since state law allows people with absentee ballots to
drop them off at precinct polling places, I guess they must. I
should know this, but I don't!

David

--- "Edmund R. Kennedy" wrote:

> Hello All:
>
> Would the OVC EVM aid in the casting of provisional ballots?
> I could see a routine, when triggered somehow, that marks
> across the face of the ballot PROVISIONAL and prints out the
> proper affadavit language for the voter to sign.
>
> I understand that the voter puts their provisional ballot into
> an envelope. Typically what happense to the envelope after
> that? Is it placed (envelope and all) into the ballot box? I
> could see this decreasing the likelihood that these
> provisional ballots would get 'lost'.
>
> Thanks, Ed Kennedy
>
> Arthur Keller wrote:
> "You talk about testing with real bullets, this is going to be
>
> testing election reform with real ballots."
> - DOUG CHAPIN, executive director of a nonpartisan election
> watchdog
> group, on provisional voting.
>
>
>
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/06/politics/campaign/06vote.html?th
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