Re: [OVC-discuss] Fwd: [Votingtech] Touchscreen Voting Machines Cause Long Lines and Disenfranchise Voters

From: Edward Cherlin <echerlin_at_gmail_dot_com>
Date: Sun Apr 19 2009 - 18:10:49 CDT

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Ronald Crane <voting@lastland.net> wrote:
> I'm glad that someone has fleshed this out. This is yet another way in which
> hand-filled paper ballots (possibly counted by properly-supervised machines)
> are superior to machine-created ballots.

I don't think I have seen your views on the typical 1% error rate for
hand-filled paper ballots, from such factors as overvoting and stray
marks. Nor do I recall hearing from you on the subject of ballot-box
stuffing.

> It's much cheaper and easier to
> accommodate voters by setting up more tables, privacy shields, and pens than
> it is to do so using machines (which have not only to be purchased, but to
> be securely stored and maintained). This advantage is especially pronounced
> during an unexpected surge in turnout, since card tables, privacy shields,
> and pens can be purchased or fabricated on election day, while machines
> usually cannot (or, at least, cannot be purchased or fabricated securely on
> such short notice).
>
> -R
>
> Arthur Keller wrote:
>
> This article may be of interest to the design of an open voting system.
>
> Best regards,
> Arthur
>
> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 22:48:59 -0400
> To: votingtech@hss.caltech.edu
> From: Dick Pratt <rhpratt@his.com>
> Subject: [Votingtech] Touchscreen Voting Machines Cause Long Lines and
>     Disenfranchise Voters
>
> (Forwarded from TrueVote.)  Since this seems to be a scientific paper it
> should be of interest to this group.  --Dick Pratt
>
> [snip]
>
>  > ...Bill Edelstein, and his physicist son Arthur D. Edelstein have
>  > written a paper entitled, "Touchscreen Voting Machines Cause Long Lines
>  > and Disenfranchise Voters."...  The abstract:
>
>  Computerized touchscreen "Direct Recording Electronic" DRE voting systems
>  have been used by over 1/3 of American voters in recent elections. In many
>  places, insufficient DRE numbers in combination with lengthy ballots and
>  high voter traffic have caused long lines and disenfranchised voters who
>  left without voting. We have applied computer queuing simulation to the
>  voting process and conclude that far more DREs, at great expense, would be
>  needed to keep waiting times low. Alternatively, paper ballot-optical scan
>  systems can be easily and economically scaled to prevent long lines and
>  meet unexpected contingencies.
>
>  > (end of abstract)
>
> Draft paper available at:
>
>  <http://arxiv.org/pdf/0810.5577v1>http://arxiv.org/pdf/0810.5577v1
>
> [snip]
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