Re: Ohio Post Election Audits

From: Arthur Keller <voting_at_kellers_dot_org>
Date: Thu Apr 24 2008 - 04:44:40 CDT

There's a big difference between a demonstration
program and a production quality system that can
handle any ballot as well as an election
management system for specifying those ballots
and aggregating the results from precincts.

The OVC demo illustrates what an open source
system can do. It's not production quality, nor
is it federally certified.

That being said, I'd like to see progressive
Secretaries of State, such as Ohio's Brunner and
California's Bowen, get together to jointly
commission the development of a production
quality system.

Best regards,

At 5:35 AM -0400 4/22/08, Ron Olson wrote:
>I think most (or probably all of us) would like
>to see proprietary vendor hardware/software
>replaced with open source systems.
>My understanding is that Sec Brunner will not
>force voting system changes unless there are
>funds to replace them. Although open source
>would be less expensive that vendor systems,
>they still take time and money.
>In addition to a demo, a BOE would probably want
> some information on how they would implement the ballot printer
> what kind of PC & printers will work
> who could support them
> who else is using them (references)
> etc
>Is information like that available?
>From: Brent Turner []
>Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 3:37 PM
>; 'CASE News'; 'OFEN';
>; 'Ron Olson'
>Subject: RE: [SPAM][CASE_OH] Ohio Post Election Audits
>Ron- Great work- As usual, I hope you are
>mentioning your support for open source systems-
>Specifically the ballot printer downloadable
>It is crucial we get the first count correct-
>Audits are great, but obviously without a secure
>first count we are up against the wall from the
>get go-
>Also, certification of the systems is not
>appropriate with proprietary code- SOS JB knows
>this- Please vocalize your support for OS-
>Best- BT
>[] On Behalf Of
>Ron Olson
>Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 10:33 AM
>; CASE News; OFEN;
>Subject: [SPAM][CASE_OH] Ohio Post Election Audits
>Members of the SoS's VRI workgroup on Voting
>Technology (along with some audit experts) gave
>a presentation on the Ohio Audit White to Sec
>Brunner and staff members on April 17.
>The presentation can be found here:
> <>
>The white paper is here:
>Cost estimates based on 2004/2006 are here:
>The presentation was well received and
>questions/discussion continued for about hour
>beyond the presentation.
>Sec Brunner expressed an interest in details of
>how our recommended statistical audit would be
>handled in practice (compared to a Tiered audit).
>We expect to continue working on recommendations
>for November audits, possibly including
>recommendations for
> procedures for a statistical method for selecting precincts
> the Observer Directive to make sure
>observers are not just watching from a distance
> BOE security plans
> Chain of custody audits

Arthur M. Keller, Ph.D., 3881 Corina Way, Palo Alto, CA  94303-4507
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