Re: Microsoft-backed Consortium, AeA, Opposing Open Voting Bill, AB 852

From: Nancy Tobi <ntobi_at_democracyfornewhampshire_dot_com>
Date: Sat Apr 28 2007 - 19:37:29 CDT

LOL Teresa!!!

Of course - in the Jewish tradition we are required to read the law in open
meeting so that everyone hears it and knows it and we therefore have no
plausible deniability.

But at least we don't have to worry about electing the good Lord.

On 4/28/07, Teresa Hommel <tahommel@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> An apt equivalent would be people who want to have open public handcounts
> so that everyone can watch the votes be counted and know who was
> legitimately elected.
>
> Teresa Hommel
>
> David Jefferson wrote:
>
> Here is an interesting historical analogy to what Alan is saying. I learned it from a TV show last night. It was of profound importance 400 years ago.
>
> One of Martin Luther's great arguments with the Roman Catholic church was his belief that everyone--not just priests--should be able to read and interpret Holy Scripture for themselves. It was a profoundly democratic idea at the time. It required that the Bible be translated from Latin to vernacular languages, and that it be mass printed in affordable editions.
>
> The Church hierarchy was outraged and profoundly opposed to this idea, and made it a crime to participate in such activities. People were burned at the stake for violating this law, including William Tyndale, the original translator of the Bible into English, whose work was the basis for the King James Version. This, among other issues, was a founding idea of the Protestant reformation.
>
> Martin Luther's vision might, in today's terminology, have been called "Open Scripture". Openness has been an issue in western civilization for a long time.
>
> David
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Alan Dechert <dechert@gmail.com> <dechert@gmail.com>
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> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 8:27:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [OVC-discuss] Microsoft-backed Consortium, AeA, Opposing Open Voting Bill, AB 852
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> Lillie wrote,
>
>
>
> However, that is not the point of open source access to
> voting technology it is the principles of self governance.
>
> Exactly!
>
> I often use the analogy of having openly available legal code. Any of us
> can look up any state or federal legal code (the Internet has proven to be a
> great tool of democracy in this and other regards).
>
> I don't have any statistics on it, but I suspect only a small percentage of
> the population ever reads any legal code. Relatively few have the time
> and/or training to do a good analysis. And there is so much of it, it is
> truely a daunting task.
>
> But it is nobody's business to decide who should have access to legal code
> and who should not. This code describes processes and rules by which
> society is supposed to be run. Principles of self governance require that
> anyone subject to these rules must have access to them so as to know how
> things are supposed to work and to enable improvement should someone think
> of changes that are needed.
>
> Open source computer code for election software is more than analogous to
> the legal code example: it is a subset of processes and rules that apply to
> the way society is run. We require access to the computer code for exactly
> the same reason we require access to legal code. We have an absolute right
> to know how it works (or is supposed to work).
>
> Alan D.
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Nancy Tobi
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Chair, NH Fair Elections Committee
Legislative Coordinator, Election Defense Alliance
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