Re: I need some help

From: JamBoi <jamboi_at_yahoo_dot_com>
Date: Tue Apr 26 2005 - 19:17:56 CDT

DRE's are NOT currently subject to ANY credible testing. NONE
WHATSOEVER. The DRE CARTEL HAS DONE EVERYTHING in their power TO KEEP
IT THAT WAY.

JamBoi

--- Teresa Hommel <tahommel@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Re financial transactions, there is a tracking number. In the case of
>
> checks it is the bank number, account number, and check number. The
> person gets a statement, which shows the check and the tracking
> information (date, check number, amount). In case of an inquiry, the
> bank's bookkeeping department can show the FBI each step of the
> processing of the check.
>
> Flight-control is not similar to transaction-capturing and
> -processing,
> but voting is a transaction-capturing and -processing application.
> Why
> did Shamos compare voting to flight-control? My assumption was that
> he
> was using what he knew, and he had once worked with a flight-control
> application. You don't need documentation to prove that flight
> control
> systems are subject to rigorous pre-use procedures, because no one
> will
> argue this point -- but they will argue that "so are voting systems."
>
> You need to show that Shamos is comparing apples and oranges, because
>
> transaction-capture is error prone and always audited 100% by a human
>
> being -- every customer sooner or later personally views their
> transaction data and finds out if their transaction data was wrongly
> recorded or processed when they (1) get their statement (2) get their
>
> bill (3) get the correct item they ordered or a wrong item that they
> have to return (4) get the correct or wrong service visit from the
> cable
> technician, telephone installer, plumber, repair person, etc etc.
>
> Teresa Hommel
>
> Ron Crane wrote:
>
> > At Alan's request, I am writing a paper rebutting Prof. Shamos's
> > recent paper that promotes DREs. I've got most of it in hand, but I
>
> > need some help on three issues. Two of them should be easy for
> someone
> > who knows, and one will require some work. I need all these by
> > Thursday if possible. Here they are:
> >
> > 1. A few reliable cites for the proposition that flight-control
> > software is subject to rigorous specification, implementation,
> review,
> > and testing procedures.
> >
> > 2. A few reliable cites for the proposition that software used for
> > major financial transactions (e.g. a bank's check-clearing system)
> is
> > subject to tight standards (though probably not as tight as (1)).
> >
> > 3. I need someone who is well versed in OVC's system to read
> section
> > 2.4 of Shamos's paper
> > (http://euro.ecom.cmu.edu/people/faculty/mshamos/paper.htm#_edn1 )
> and
> > to write a technically solid rebuttal. Reward: naming as a
> co-author.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > -Ron
> >
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JamBoi

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