Re: My proposal for Minimal E-Voting Standards

From: JamBoi <jamboi_at_yahoo_dot_com>
Date: Tue Apr 26 2005 - 19:00:17 CDT

IF we go with Open Source E-Voting (instead of paper only, hand
counted) THEN there is nothing wrong and many things right with touch
screen. I think the debate has pretty much been settled on that one
and we've moved on to other aspects. Notice I did NOT take a stand one
way or the other in my PROPOSAL FOR MINIMAL E-VOTING STANDARDS, because
as my personal friend, Larry Wall says "There's always more than one
way, and I don't feel a stand needs to be taken one way or the other on
that issue in the MINIMAL E-VOTING STANDARDS.

JamBoi

--- Teresa Hommel <tahommel@earthlink.net> wrote:

> In the future, if the disability lobby works with technologists,
> equipment can be developed. At the present time, I believe it is
> unreasonable to expect it by the HAVA imposed deadlines.
>
> It also may be worth it for the disability lobby to consider where to
>
> put the limited resources it has or may get. One estimate in NY state
> is
> that it will cost $3000 per voter with disabilities to provide a
> private
> and independent vote. If I was in a position to allocate $3000 for
> accessibility, I don't know if I would put it into voting equipment
> which would be used maybe once a year, or into other accessibility
> solutions that might be used every day. Taxis, a broader range of
> public
> accomodations, housing, home services, jobs.
>
> Teresa
>
>
> Edmund R. Kennedy wrote:
>
> >Hello Teresa:
> >
> >Agreed. ADA talks about, 'Reasonable' accomodations
> >as well. At the risk of starting yet another flame,
> >is it 'reasonable' to insist that if a quadraplegic
> >can independently get into a voting place using their
> >sip and puff interface and an electric wheel chair,
> >that they also should be able to physically put the
> >ballot into the reader as with the Automark? My
> >personal feeling is no, but I'm open to discussion on
> >the issue.
> >
> >Thanks, Ed Kennedy
> >
> >--- Teresa Hommel <tahommel@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>ADA compliance and multiple language capability can
> >>be achieved by
> >>computerized ballot-marking or ballot-printing
> >>devices to assist voters
> >>to mark a paper ballot. It may not be feasible to
> >>handle all
> >>disabilities with the same device.
> >>
> >>Teresa Hommel
> >>
> >>Ed Kennedy wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hello:
> >>>
> >>>A couple of things:
> >>>
> >>>1. Q: Why use touch screen voting? A. ADA
> >>>
> >>>
> >>compliance and multiple
> >>
> >>
> >>>language capability. Also, it makes write in
> >>>
> >>>
> >>voting a little less
> >>
> >>
> >>>uncertain.
> >>>2. You seem to neglect voting registration and
> >>>
> >>>
> >>poll books. Not only
> >>
> >>
> >>>do votes needs to be accurately recorded and
> >>>
> >>>
> >>capable of independent
> >>
> >>
> >>>audit but only legitimate voters should vote.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>After looking over the
> >>
> >>
> >>>Washington State elections it looks like the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Republican party has some
> >>
> >>
> >>>legitimate gripes about the difficulty of voter
> >>>
> >>>
> >>verification. My
> >>
> >>
> >>>personal solution is free, biometric ID's
> >>>
> >>>
> >>complying with national
> >>
> >>
> >>>standards. If this is a National- ID system, so
> >>>
> >>>
> >>be it. We've already
> >>
> >>
> >>>all got social security numbers and privacy is a
> >>>
> >>>
> >>quaint 19th century
> >>
> >>
> >>>concept.
> >>>3. The person in charge of elections should be a
> >>>
> >>>
> >>civil servant
> >>
> >>
> >>>appointed by the judicial branch and confirmed by
> >>>
> >>>
> >>the legislature.
> >>
> >>
> >>>4. In light of what happened in Ohio, there needs
> >>>
> >>>
> >>to be an adequate
> >>
> >>
> >>>supply of voting machines and back up paper
> >>>
> >>>
> >>ballots.
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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JamBoi

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