Re: My proposal for Minimal E-Voting Standards

From: Ron Crane <voting_at_lastland_dot_net>
Date: Mon Apr 25 2005 - 17:00:31 CDT

On Apr 25, 2005, at 2:38 PM, Edmund R. Kennedy wrote:

> Hello:
>
> The word 'minimal' suggest to me that it covers the
> entire picture but not in great depth. Perhaps the
> word you are looking for is fragmentary or 'elements
> of e-voting standards'? As a general comment it seems
> odd that we're all for open systems but not open
> lives.

It is not odd at all. Open systems give citizens control of government.
"Open lives" give government control of citizens. I know which I want.

> How would you address the 'voter integrity'
> issue?

I don't see it as a huge problem. I realize that others, however, do
and others yet pretend that they do. I have no problem with uniform
standards for voter registration involving the presentation at
registration of a birth certificate, naturalization certificate, or
similar proof of citizenship: as long as registration is sufficiently
in advance of an election to allow reasonable time to acquire these
forms of ID. I have no problem with making the registration database
available statewide, or even nationwide, to combat multiple voting. I
have no problem with requiring the presentation at the polls of a
form of ID, such as a photo ID or utility bill that matches the
registration record, as long as that form of ID is available to
everyone for free.

-R

> Thanks, Ed Kennedy
>
>
> --- JamBoi <jamboi@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Dear Ed,
>>
>> Yes, its true that I didn't address all aspects of
>> the broken parts of
>> our voting system and I'm not attempting a
>> comprehensive addressing of
>> all the problems. Minimal is a key word in the
>> title. I was trying to
>> focus merely on the E-Voting portion of it. All
>> additional suggestions
>> for the whole voting system are needed and welcome,
>> but if we can
>> segment off and focus on just the Mimimal E-Voting
>> Standards portion of
>> it I think that will help us with the current
>> political/legislative
>> challenges that are going on right now. OVC is
>> really focused on
>> E-Voting.
>>
>> Also I have to virulently oppose the statement
>> "privacy is a quaint
>> 19th century concept". Give me privacy or give me
>> death! Liberty is
>> closely tied in with privacy. I won't leave home
>> without it!
>>
>> Thank you for getting some great discussion going by
>> replying to my
>> proposal!
>>
>> JamBoi
>>
>> --- Ed Kennedy <ekennedyx@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Hello:
>>>
>>> A couple of things:
>>>
>>> 1. Q: Why use touch screen voting? A. ADA
>> compliance and multiple
>>>
>>> language capability. Also, it makes write in
>> voting a little less
>>> uncertain.
>>> 2. You seem to neglect voting registration and
>> poll books. Not only
>>> do
>>> votes needs to be accurately recorded and capable
>> of independent
>>> audit but
>>> only legitimate voters should vote. After looking
>> over the
>>> Washington State
>>> elections it looks like the Republican party has
>> some legitimate
>>> gripes
>>> about the difficulty of voter verification. My
>> personal solution is
>>> free,
>>> biometric ID's complying with national standards.
>> If this is a
>>> National- ID
>>> system, so be it. We've already all got social
>> security numbers and
>>> privacy
>>> is a quaint 19th century concept.
>>> 3. The person in charge of elections should be a
>> civil servant
>>> appointed by
>>> the judicial branch and confirmed by the
>> legislature.
>>> 4. In light of what happened in Ohio, there needs
>> to be an adequate
>>> supply
>>> of voting machines and back up paper ballots.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Thanks, Edmund R. Kennedy
>>>
>>> Always work for the common good.
>>>
>>> 10777 Bendigo Cove
>>> San Diego, CA 92126-2510
>>> USA
>>>
>>> I blog now and then at:
>> <http://ekennedyx.blogspot.com/>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "JamBoi" <jamboi@yahoo.com>
>>> To: "Open Voting Consortium discussion list"
>>> <ovc-discuss@listman.sonic.net>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 4:10 PM
>>> Subject: [OVC-discuss] My proposal for Minimal
>> E-Voting Standards
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>> http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/4/20/181112/801
>>>>
>>>> Please Recommend and Comment.
>>>>
>>>> JamBoi
>>>>
>>>> JamBoi
>>>>
>>>> "Live humbly, laugh often and love
>> unconditionally" (anon)
>>>> http://dailyJam.blogspot.com
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
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>> (anon)
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