Re: My proposal for Minimal E-Voting Standards

From: Edmund R. Kennedy <ekennedyx_at_yahoo_dot_com>
Date: Mon Apr 25 2005 - 15:12:03 CDT

Hello All:

Thank you Joe and Teresa. Wading back into the fray,
I believe that one cannot get an election system
certified unless it includes a voter registration
module. Also, HAVA is paying for each State to have a
centralized voter registration system or at least
that's what I understand. A number of states are
planning to use biometrics. I know that establishing
a centralized record of voter registration is underway
here in California. Also, in the polling place I
worked in the last election, the keepers of the poll
book demanded that everyone present a photo id. If
you didn't, you had to vote provisional. Personally I
thought that was illegal but when I mentioned it I was
told otherwise. Oh, by the way, California driver's
licenses do have biometrics in the form of a
electronic rendition of your thumb print.

Also, politically, voter integrity is not something
that's going to go away. The party that won the last
national election and is in charge of this country
strongly believes that this is a very real concern.
They are still sore about their paper thin loss in
Washington State and have raised many unresolved
questions. Even though the voter integrity issue may
actually be based more on folk myths than on fact, the
only way I can think of dealing with the issue is to
come in head on with a robust voter registration
system that can't be questioned by responsible
critics. So, if not national, biometric ID's then

Please disregard my rhetorical grand standing about
'shuting down shop'. Generally I respect everyone's
articulately expressed desires for privacy but it
seems moot anymore. Also, I would think IT
professionals would know that not only does security
by obscurity not work in cryptography, it also doesn't
work in our personal lives. It took many years for me
to realize that the only way to deal with this is to
try and live my life in a blameless way and to be
comfortable with who I am, warts and all.

BTW: Some states are planning to charge applicants as
much as $30 for a biometric ID so there is something
like a poll tax issue here. That's why Hasen and I
are specifying FREE.

Thanks, Ed Kennedy

--- Teresa Hommel <> wrote:
> Bravo!
> Teresa Hommel
> David Mertz wrote:
> > On Apr 25, 2005, at 12:19 PM, Joseph Lorenzo Hall
> wrote:
> >
> >> It's important to note that it's not just Ed
> making these kinds of
> >> suggestions. In fact, one of the most prominent
> Election Law
> >> scholars, Richard Hasen:
> >
> >
> >>> It would then issue voter registration cards
> with biometric
> >>> information such as fingerprints, as is done
> today in Mexico. The
> >>> nationwide database will eliminate double
> registrations, assist in
> >>> quickly identifying voters for purposes of
> provisional ballots, and
> >>> help restore faith in the election process.
> Because the cards would
> >>> contain biometric information, voters could show
> up without i.d. at
> >>> the polls and still have their votes counted.
> >>
> >
> > $5 to the person who has the closest guess on
> exactly how many
> > *milliseconds* it would take Alberto Gonzalez,
> John Negroponte, and
> > like-minded control-society advocates to reach the
> conclusion that the
> > these biometric voting cards would be really handy
> to use for other
> > things: immigration/visa control; criminal history
> identification;
> > welfare and benefit monitoring; drivers licenses;
> library cards;
> > credit card purchases; mortgage applications;
> medical records; etc.
> > All information, naturally, tied together in
> JPoindexter-style master
> > databases.
> >
> > Of course, irises, blood DNA, and fingerprints are
> slightly
> > inconvenient to quickly identify. Wouldn't it be
> so much easier to
> > just use the RFID tags so kindly implanted in
> children to "prevent
> > kidnapping (by those nasty child molesters)" as
> quicker means to
> > identify people at 5-feet away? (or 50-feet with
> the right high-tech
> > parabolic antennas)
> >
> > I'm creeped out just thinking about the idea,
> quite honestly.
> >
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