Re: Shamos rebuttal -- re-visit

From: Ron Crane <voting_at_lastland_dot_net>
Date: Sat Apr 16 2005 - 15:44:59 CDT

Yikes! Internet dyslexia strikes again! "Make due" should, of course,
be "make do". I've been hanging out on the blogs way too much.


On Apr 16, 2005, at 1:42 PM, Ron Crane wrote:

> OK, I will make this into a real paper, and will post it for review
> here. By what date does your contact need it? If it's really soon, can
> she make due with the rebuttal more-or-less as posted?
> -Ron
> P.S. I've made a donation, too.
> On Apr 16, 2005, at 1:18 PM, Alan Dechert wrote:
>> Sorry, Ron, that I haven't been as responsive as you'd like in this
>> thread. I get that way when I need money. Our current fundraising
>> drive (ends Tues eve.) is off to a slow start. We're going to be
>> hard-pressed to meet our goal (which we must do). BTW, people on the
>> OVC-discuss list have contributed in the past and I need to ask to for
>> renewed support. I expect to spend significant time in the next few
>> days making fundraising calls, so I don't have a lot of time to spend
>> on this right now.
>> Anyway, if you want to make this into a nice paper and get
>> endorsements and such, I would be glad to have you as first author,
>> and list others that have contributed like we have done in the past
>> with other papers.
>> Alan D.
>> On 4/16/05, Ron Crane <> wrote:
>>> Thanks! Those are good suggestions and could really help us make our
>>> case. But first we need to hammer this proto-paper into shape. My
>>> Shamos rebuttal contains a few requests for help (items 7, 16, and
>>> especially 18) with areas that others here have more knowledge of,
>>> and
>>> experience in, than I do. Please see whether you can help. Also
>>> please
>>> review the entire rebuttal and post your comments here. Alan: I need
>>> your feedback especially.
>>> To make this a really good paper, it probably should be framed not so
>>> much as a rebuttal to Shamos, but as a rebuttal to common
>>> misconceptions about e-voting systems that happens to use Shamos's
>>> paper as the primary source of misconceptions.
>>> Comments? Flames? Or have a multitude of cats stolen most list
>>> participants' tongues?
>>> -Ron
>>> On Apr 15, 2005, at 1:01 PM, laird popkin wrote:
>>>> I am stunned at the high quality of this discussion.
>>>> We need to get the resulting document widely disseminated, and
>>>> legitimized for reference. Can we submit it for publication in a
>>>> relevant journal, and/or get a bunch of OVC supporters who are well
>>>> known in the voting world to publicly sign off on it?
>>>> - LP
>>>> ....
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