Re: Miami-Dade Considering Dropping $25M ES&S iVotronic

From: Edmund R. Kennedy <ekennedyx_at_yahoo_dot_com>
Date: Fri Apr 15 2005 - 15:24:39 CDT

Hello Arthur:

Thanks for your quick and flattering reply. As an
open and general question, what is the expectations of
either having an 'production quality system' or at
least a next generation version? Before anyone else
mentions it, just as I've suggested that there should
be multiple ways to initiation the EVM, perhaps mark
sense output should be a user selectable choice. This
gets us around the either/or question. If we're
looking at 8000 some counties, the system does need to
have flexibility designed in from the beginning.

Thanks, Ed Kennedy

--- Arthur Keller <voting@kellers.org> wrote:

> Ed, all your criticisms of the Automark are valid.
> Yet it is
> available in production form now. The combination
> of Automark (or
> equivalent) and precinct-based optical scan is what
> I'd recommend now
> until an OVC-style production quality system is
> available.
>
> Best regards,
> Arthur
>
> At 1:05 PM -0700 4/15/05, Edmund R. Kennedy wrote:
> >Hello Arthur:
> >
> >As far as I can tell,
> >
> >1. the Automark isn't open source
> >2. doesn't necessarily support the future EVM.
> >3. Also, it's special hardware and
> >4. doesn't store electronic voting images.
> >
> >I haven't yet to be convinced that the Markamatic
> >isn't a viable product line. It's just a subset of
> >the EVM after all.
> >
> >Thanks, Ed Kennedy
> >
> >--- Arthur Keller <voting@kellers.org> wrote:
> >> Or the Automark, a commercial product offered by
> two
> >> vendors.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Arthur
> >>
> >> At 12:05 PM -0700 4/15/05, Edmund R. Kennedy
> wrote:
> >> >Hello Arthur and All:
> >> >
> >> >Can I still get people to consider a touch
> screen
> >> >driven scan tron ballot printer say the EVM
> 1/2?
> >> >It's, quick, cheap(er) and allows county's
> >> thinking
> >> >of using optical scan equipment to meet ADA and
> >> >multi-lingual requirements. No, it's not meant
> to
> >> be
> >> >substitute for the EVM-1 but it could get our
> foot
> >> in
> >> >the door in a number of places as well as allow
> us
> >> to
> >> >work through the inevitable wrinkles. It could
> >> still
> >> >have over/under vote prevention, run from a
> live CD
> >> >and produce ballot images. Yes, the concept is
> not
> >> so
> >> >different from the EVM but it does away with
> the
> >> >annoying bar code issue and the
> counting/tabulating
> >> >issue -- for now.
> >> >
> >> >Thanks, Ed Kennedy
> >> >
> >> >PS: I still have problems with the likelihood
> of a
> >> >voter walking away with the SPB.
> >> >
> >> >Also, while I'm dealing with unfinished
> business:
> >> >
> >> >1. What have we decided re voting cycle
> activation
> >> >especially re primaries. Last I checked we had
> a
> >> >handful of methods. Should the software be
> written
> >> to
> >> >accomodate them all?
> >> >2. Explain to me again why ballots under glass
> is
> >> a
> >> >problem for voter privacy? It seems remote.
> Yes,
> >> >it's an annoying kludge but that's not a real
> good
> >> >reason to say it shouldn't be used.
> >> >
> >> >--- Arthur Keller <arthur@kellers.org> wrote:
> >> >>
> >>
>
>>http://www.computerworld.com/governmenttopics/government/policy/story/0,10801,101105,00.html
> >> >>
> >> >> --
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> >>
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