Re: Miami-Dade Considering Dropping $25M ES&S iVotronic

From: Arthur Keller <voting_at_kellers_dot_org>
Date: Fri Apr 15 2005 - 15:16:24 CDT

Ed, all your criticisms of the Automark are valid. Yet it is
available in production form now. The combination of Automark (or
equivalent) and precinct-based optical scan is what I'd recommend now
until an OVC-style production quality system is available.

Best regards,
Arthur

At 1:05 PM -0700 4/15/05, Edmund R. Kennedy wrote:
>Hello Arthur:
>
>As far as I can tell,
>
>1. the Automark isn't open source
>2. doesn't necessarily support the future EVM.
>3. Also, it's special hardware and
>4. doesn't store electronic voting images.
>
>I haven't yet to be convinced that the Markamatic
>isn't a viable product line. It's just a subset of
>the EVM after all.
>
>Thanks, Ed Kennedy
>
>--- Arthur Keller <voting@kellers.org> wrote:
>> Or the Automark, a commercial product offered by two
>> vendors.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Arthur
>>
>> At 12:05 PM -0700 4/15/05, Edmund R. Kennedy wrote:
>> >Hello Arthur and All:
>> >
>> >Can I still get people to consider a touch screen
>> >driven scan tron ballot printer say the EVM 1/2?
>> >It's, quick, cheap(er) and allows county's
>> thinking
>> >of using optical scan equipment to meet ADA and
>> >multi-lingual requirements. No, it's not meant to
>> be
>> >substitute for the EVM-1 but it could get our foot
>> in
>> >the door in a number of places as well as allow us
>> to
>> >work through the inevitable wrinkles. It could
>> still
>> >have over/under vote prevention, run from a live CD
>> >and produce ballot images. Yes, the concept is not
>> so
>> >different from the EVM but it does away with the
>> >annoying bar code issue and the counting/tabulating
>> >issue -- for now.
>> >
>> >Thanks, Ed Kennedy
>> >
>> >PS: I still have problems with the likelihood of a
>> >voter walking away with the SPB.
>> >
>> >Also, while I'm dealing with unfinished business:
>> >
>> >1. What have we decided re voting cycle activation
>> >especially re primaries. Last I checked we had a
>> >handful of methods. Should the software be written
>> to
>> >accomodate them all?
>> >2. Explain to me again why ballots under glass is
>> a
>> >problem for voter privacy? It seems remote. Yes,
>> >it's an annoying kludge but that's not a real good
>> >reason to say it shouldn't be used.
>> >
>> >--- Arthur Keller <arthur@kellers.org> wrote:
>> >>
>>
>>http://www.computerworld.com/governmenttopics/government/policy/story/0,10801,101105,00.html
>> >>
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