Re: The welcome to the mailing list letter, suggested revisions

From: Teresa Hommel <tahommel_at_earthlink_dot_net>
Date: Tue Apr 20 2004 - 14:01:43 CDT

My point was, exactly, that when the ballot arrives in the
ballot box as a result of the voter taking an action to signify
that it has been verified, it is considered legally verified
whether the voter scrutinized it or not. That is equivalent
to saying that if you sign a contract, you have agreed to
it legally, whether you scrutinized it or not. It is a
legal distinction based on whether or not the voter
has taken the significant action, not a behavioral one
based on whether or not they in fact scrutinized the ballot.

The point of the voter-verified ballot is to be the legal
ballot of record for recount purposes. It is a legal question
--did the voter take the action? The voting machine
facilitates the voter to produce a voter-verified ballot,
the point being to create the legal ballot of record for
recount purposes.

Of course we hope all voters scrutinze their ballot, and
of course we don't know if they all will.

Teresa Hommel

"Edmund R. Kennedy" wrote:

> Hello David:
>
> Suggested revision noted.
>
> Ed Kennedy
>
> --- David Mertz <voting-project@gnosis.cx> wrote:
> > On Apr 20, 2004, at 12:50 AM, Teresa Hommel wrote:
> > > If I understand correctly, the term
> > "voter-verified" is preferred
> > > rather than the term "voter-verifiable."
> >
> > Nope.
> >
> > The paper ballot produced by OVC voting stations MAY
> > be verified by
> > voters, either by visual examination or by using a
> > BVA. However, we
> > cannot require nor prove that a voter actually
> > performs the
> > verification step. A ballot is "verifiABLE" by a
> > voter, but s/he can
> > still put it in the ballot box (and it is valid and
> > indistinguishable
> > whose ballot it is) without it actually being
> > verifIED.
> >
> > Of course, we *encourage* verification by voters,
> > and make it as easy
> > as possible. But you also cannot force someone who
> > signs a contract to
> > fully understand it, you can just give them the
> > opportunity to.
> >
> > ---
> > Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick;
> > food
> > from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands
> > of the
> > uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and
> > putting
> > advocates of freedom in prisons. Intellectual
> > property is to the
> > 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
> >
>
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